The Rappers
Interviewed October 2008
Our Featured Geocacher this month is The Rappers, also
known as Lloyd and Jennifer Rapp of
Combined we have 4 Children.
·
Stephanie, A zoo keeper at the Philadelphia Zoo.
· Joey, In the Navy and who’s whereabouts in the world we never know till he returns to Norfolk Va.
· Ashlie, a Grad Student lives in Arlington Va. and will soon become a state trooper either in Maryland or here in De. Warning: When she pulls you over and after she stops laughing when you say you are geocaching she will still give you a ticket. and
· Aaron, A high school student who sometime attends events with us. CITO events are good since he can get extra credit at school.
On Sundays, when we get our weekly phone calls from the children, the first question they ask is “What are you Nerd-Hunting”?
We consider ourselves casual cachers, between working weekends when needed and the family spread out like it is, caching is what we do during “our time”. Caching has replaced our old activity of hiking around the local trails
How did
you become involved with geocaching - and how long have you been doing it?
We received a plain Jane 2002 Garman Etrex as a
promotional gift. We had no Idea what to do with it so after mapping out our
yard and measuring the distance around the block it ended up in a drawer in the
shed.
Two years later we found it again but could not find the
book with it so we looked up GPS on the computer. During our search we came
across several references about geocaching. Decided to give it a try and went
to the nearest cache to our house, Hart612’s “Blair Pond Project” (GZJ0D2). We
had no idea how to setup the GPS without the book so we printed out the cache
page and watched the coordinates move up and down till we made our way to GZ.
(If you think that’s funny go to that cache and try it). It was no fun at all
and after several attempts at caching the next two years with the same
aggravations said the heck with it.
One night while playing with the receiver we came across
the setup page where you get the arrow and distance to GZ, this was a whole
different game and we have been playing ever since. Even though our stats say
we have been caching since Sept 2004 we really did not “get it” (3 logged caches) till early 2006. We will
never be power cachers but we don’t ever see the day where we go somewhere new
and not try to find a couple.

How many
caches have you found so far?
To date we have found 829 caches in 8 states.
How do
the
We have noticed that terrain ratings change
drastically. What they called a 1 1/2
star terrain at Forest Drive Pipeline (GCGQ8M) in
I notice
that you took a 200 mile trip to get NJ’s oldest cache, tell us about that
trip.
While doing the C.A.C.H.E. Event we noticed it would not
be hard to get the 10 oldest caches in
gerbiL
cacHe by cach=e_ninjA (GCC8) is the oldest cache in
On Saturday March 24th we realized we had
nothing important to do till Monday so we printed off a few cache pages and
jumped in the car. We made it to the cache and found 2 more before sunset. Had
a list for the next day but woke up to rain. The last coupon wasn’t taken until
June 2nd but we got ours. Our coin sits on the mantle above the
fireplace. A 400 mile trip and only 6 caches, 2 in

Which
find was the most challenging?
Finding Hart612’s cache
But the most challenging was actually a caching trip.One of the most miserable days of our lives was looking
for Locust Pocus (GC10Q58). Just a bit further (GC11413) and
The day started out cool and we decided to cache this area
before summer kicked in. But by midday it was around 90 and extremely humid.
Looking back on all our logs in order from May 26th, 2007 you can
detect how a fun day of caching quickly deteriorated. When we got back to the
truck we stripped down at the pond by parking to scrub off all the dead
mosquitoes and picked well over 100 ticks off of us in spite of using up a full
can of deep woods off.
Which was
the easiest?
We had the pleasure of going caching with Joey of the team
debjoey over to
Tell us about your favorite
caches?
Our favorite cache is “Getting around to it” (GCNFGT). A
perfect combination of everything we love about caching. It was great weather,
we timed the tide right and were in no hurry to be anywhere else. The next 3 ½
hours felt like we were in a world of our own a million miles away from
everything. Once you get started you don’t even need to worry about the GPS,
which gave us time to enjoy our surroundings and each others company. To this
day no matter how bad the traffic is on 95 when we get to this section we look
over and smile. We recommend this cache often to fellow cachers along with the
advice to leave the boat at home.
Have you had any memorable
experiences while seeking a cache?
This is not pleasant story but we believe we are the only
Thinking it was someone who had to go real bad we thought nothing of it. While returning from getting the cache we noticed there was someone in the car slumped over with only the seat belt holding him in the car. Believing he was drunk we took a picture of him for the DelaQuest Photo contest for the strangest thing found near a cache.
Then a dog in the back seat of the car started barking and growling in a unfriendly tone and the man in the car never moved. We called 911 and after giving them the details we were asked to go to the entrance of the preserve and give directions. Within 10 minutes A fleet of 10 vehicles including a fire truck pulled in.
We let them know where the man was and down the gravel road they went, so We decided to move on. Pretty much trashed the rest of our day and we decided to head home because we believed he was dead. Later we learned the death was from a drug overdose. Needless to say we never used the picture that we had taken!
What
advice would you give to a beginning geocacher?
First thing would be the same advice Rachalhead gave the
first time we met but we didn’t listen to at the time:
GO TO A EVENT!! Wished
we listened. This is not Truman’s world and you are not alone.
Second would be: MARK YOUR CAR!! (see next Question)
How do
you decide when its time to bushwhack or to stay on the trail? Any stories on
when you seem to have made the wrong choice?
We will bushwhack in a heartbeat. Even at a parking lot
cache if there is a bush close enough to at least step over. Don’t remember the
name of the cache but it was .4 miles from parking. We did not mark the car and
left the trail at about 300ft. After several U-turns we found the cache but
were totally lost (with a GPS in our hands?) It took us 20 minutes to find a
trail, a hour to find a road and a 2 mile walk around the block to find the
car, It was a great day. So the answer to the question is “no” we never made
the wrong choice.

We have placed 8 caches and 7 of them are still up. We
have Serious time restraints so we don’t put out more then we can properly
maintain. We try to make them either unique or funny and durable. Our last 2
Hides were placed along the main travel routes as rest stops caches.
Lloyd at Duck creek cache
Have any
of them proven to be more "popular" or more difficult than what you
expected?
Our Favorite cache is Toothpick Factory (GC12TR1) but all
have received great logs and cachers repeatedly comment on the cache designs.
We published our Pined Knolls cache (GC15V31) the day of the 2007 fall event and
had enough errors in the write up to confuse just about everyone there. Word
quickly spread as to what the errors were and before to long groups were coming
back to the picnic with a find. FTF went
to Horn “we don’t need no stink’n puzzle” 229, who just went and found it. For a while we worried about it being too
obscure of a puzzle, until we received an e-mail from a cacher in
What
advice would you give to someone designing a cache placement?
Find some first. Look for some of the older hiking caches
and Harder D/T combinations to get a idea of all the possibilities. If you make
your first hide after finding only 5 micros under lamp post skirts chances are
your hide will be a micro under a lamp post skirt.
Second would be even if you get permission from your local
dentist to stick one in the bush in front of his office sooner or later that
bush will show signs of abuse and that gives us all a bad Image.
What's
your best caching story - the one you tell others to let them know the kind of
fun and adventures one can have while geocaching? There are two of us so we get two stories.
Lloyd’s favorite story:
We were at “Appoquinimink Hundreds cache” (GC10PDK) on a
very peaceful morning. We just came out of the woods and were rounding the
corner of the church in our own world as usual when out of the blue someone
started yelling at us “what are you doing here, this is private property”.
Startled, we just froze in our tracks and stared back like deer in the
headlights. When we saw the GPS in there hands. our hearts started beating
again and we had the pleasure of meeting Mike Ott, WhiteClayLover and Wahkegan.
(Mike yelling at someone, That’s funny!)
Three weeks later after finding “The Trove at
Having said all that, this past summer Mike sent us a
e-mail stating that GPSfun had contacted him about a micro hidden in the woods
at Killens Pond that was placed without permission and never published. He sent
us the coordinates and asked if we would go get it out before the park staff
found it. We skeptically did go and find it but the whole time searching we
were plotting our revenge if there was no cache there. By the way that micro is
now our Truckin' cache (GC1F8YW).
The first cacher we ever met on the trail was Hostanut at
Scrapple-ers Woodenhawk TB Motel cache (GCY07T).
After Introductions he joined us in the search. After a long hunt with 2 bouncy GPS, our batteries died and he graciously went to his car to give us new ones. We poked around the area while waiting for him to return and continue our conversation and the hunt when we spotted the something a little off. When he returned we had the cache in hand and were about to log out First FTF. He did not appear to be upset but we imagine Lady H got a ear full about them damn Newbie’s when he got home.

What are
your current caching goals?
Looking forward to 1000. We do keep a list of caches we
would like to do and places we would like to go to someday. Always working on
more efficient ways to plan longer trips, which turns into a necessity for
everyone at some point. Other then that no major goals planned.
Beside
geocaching, what other things do you like to do?
Don’t understand this question?

Any Final
comments?
If anyone can tell us of an activity other then geocaching
where you can run into a complete stranger in the middle of Nowhere, Anywhere.
End up talking forever, exchanging phone numbers and referring to them as a
friend all because you saw a GPS in there hand? Please let us know, we would
sure love to try it.
Jeni gets Delaware C.A.C.H.E
Thanks to The Rappers for
sharing these answers with us.
(Interviewed by Mike Ott)